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Thread: Addiction

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    I have been smoking now for a good 10 years and the sooner I quit the better. Addiction is a form of suffering which is clear for all to see, It's a desire we know is causing us suffering and our awareness of this is at it's most highest when we feed this desire. So why do we keep feeding this desire?

    The mind loves smoking and the body loves the nicotine, maybe If we change the mind the body will follow.

    I would really appreciate some advice on how to give up, maybe there's A meditation for addiction someone could show me.

    I would also like to hear your views on addiction or anything related.

    thanks.

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    lisehull
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    It's also a form of attachment. Maybe you can look at it from that point of view.
    Lise

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisehull #2:
    It's also a form of attachment. Maybe you can look at it from that point of view.
    Lise

    That's a good starting point thanks.

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    Hi Jin Zen,

    I used to be a smoker. The only advice I can give is to say that you really have to firmly decide "I can do this -easy peasy !"

    I used to think about giving up but never actually made the determined effort to try. Eventually with determination,I cut down to 3 cigarettes each day - one after breakfast, one after lunch and one after my evening meal. Next I stopped completely and if I felt a craving I sucked in deep breaths of air in the same way that I would inhale a cigarette. However I did become addicted to sugar-free chewing gum as a substitute for a little while - but then I gave that up eventually too .

    In the course of my life I've seen people get addicted to one thing or another - from compulsive clothes shopping to drugs and alcohol. I think its easy to have cravings for just about anything. The key to giving up is determination, and the conviction that it can be done.

    Meditation is of course, very helpful in general. There's a series of several excellent meditation videos on YouTube. Here's the introduction - Buddhist Meditation (1)



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    lisehull
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    Pema Chodron talks a lot about how to deal with addictions in her various CDs. Her wisdom is worth seeking out.
    Lise

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    dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIN ZEN #1:
    The mind loves smoking and the body loves the nicotine, maybe If we change the mind the body will follow.
    The mind loves the sensual pleasure that arises from smoking, the bodly "loves" (craves, depends on) the nicotine.

    As for advice on quitting, one thing I heard one really struck me : "Decide whether you are a smoker or a non smoker, and be that."

    The most important thing about quitting is wanting to quit. If you really want to, you will, even if it takes a while. On the other hand, even after a day, or two or three, or a year even without a cigarette, you still have to decide every day whether you want to smoke or not, whether you are a smoker or not. There's a saying about addiction, "You're not over your habit until you're in your grave."

    What worked for me : Whenever I felt like having a cigarette, I would ask myself "Do I really want a cigarette right now?"

    Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If yes, "Do I really need a cigarette right now?" Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

    If yes, "Okay I need a cigarette. Can I wait five minutes? Ten minutes? An hour?" The length of time I could go without just having to have a cigarette got longer and longer, I smoked less and less, and quit.

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    Jin Zen,
    As far as addiction goes, it is all about our behaviors. We have to make a decision and then act on it "I decided to quit drinking" my decision, my act is going to a.a. Meetings. Then modify my behaviors with the spirituality of the program and in. my life. Not always easy been doing it now for 5 years plus but am quite happy with the results.

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    You can stop - you know you can stop - it's just getting the mind around it that you are finding difficult. But the karma spinning mind can be brought under control - in an instant - it just depends on your motivation.

    You can say to yourself that you refuse to be ruled by smoking any longer or you could contemplare the actual harm your smoking is doing to yourself and others. Get yourself the motivation to quit smoking now you have realised it is wrong.

    When I gave up smoking almost exactly one year ago my wife was at first worried that I would be more ill tempered without my smoking but her fears were proven groundless - my giving up smoking has improved my practice and given me a huge boost in confidence - from sixty cigarettes a day to zero in an instant means I know now what it is possible to accomplish.

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    Very inspiring to read of these experiences - what comes through for me in reading this thread is that change involves an understanding of the need to change , combined with the motivation and commitment to continue to change the behaviour over time ... in my experience with addictive behaviours, having regular and honest contact with others who have had the same difficulties has been very helpful.

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    Spiny Norman
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIN ZEN #1:
    I would really appreciate some advice on how to give up, maybe there's A meditation for addiction someone could show me.
    Nicotine is a very powerful addiction and those who've not experienced it may not understand how difficult it is to overcome. Have you tried Nicotine Replacement Therapy, eg patches, gum, lozenges etc?

    Spiny

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