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  1. 22 Jan 21, 09:26 #1
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    Reading the Shobogenzo

    Moderator's note: Hi Thinker, I started this new thread to share the readings of the Shobogenzo

    Quote Originally Posted by Esho View Post
    Lotus sutta is not one of my favourite teachings... I think that all the magic that it depicts is suitable for children in order to be stimulated into Buddhism. Honestly I prefer to struggle with Dogen's Shobogenzo, the Xin Xin Ming and other Zen literature.

    Hi Esho, have just downloaded Dogens Shobogenzo and look forward to reading!
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  2. 22 Jan 21, 10:12 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    Hi Esho, have just downloaded Dogens Shobogenzo and look forward to reading!
    Hi Thinker! That's great. I have a complete Shobogenzo... the one of the 92 chapters; I downloaded it from Internet chapter by chapter some time ago; it is a difficult text; it is told that you have to have a long practice of Zazen in order to understand it. However Zen master Jundo Cohen wrote a book where he assures he makes it easy to understand... I don't know, I haven't read the book because I prefer to develop my own understanding through the practice of Zazen. Also here is a talk of that same book if you wish to listen to it. I haven't listened to it... I'm really not interested in his book; as I said... prefer to develop and evolve my understanding of the Shobognezo with the continued practice of Zazen.

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  3. 23 Jan 21, 05:28 #3
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    Here's volume one of an English translation from the Japanese, its by Brad Warner's and Jundo Cohen's late Japanese teacher: Gudo Wafu Nishijima:

    https://www.bdk.or.jp/document/dgtl-...enzo1_2009.pdf

    Links to the other volumes can be found on the righthand side of this page:

    http://hardcorezen.info/
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  4. 23 Jan 21, 09:50 #4
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    Ok, thanks Aloka...
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  5. 24 Jan 21, 11:42 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloka View Post
    Links to the other volumes can be found on the righthand side of this page:

    http://hardcorezen.info/
    This translations are really smooth... I'm right now through the first chapter -Bendowa- and its resulting enjoyment.

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    I just downloaded the Shobogenzo and I will start reading it tonight. I like Dogen.
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  7. 27 Jan 21, 09:42 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by justusryans View Post
    I just downloaded the Shobogenzo and I will start reading it tonight. I like Dogen.
    Great Mike... we can share our thoughts about it here...

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  8. 28 Jan 21, 09:29 #8
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    I'm up to chapter 5 so far.
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  9. 28 Jan 21, 09:43 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by philg View Post
    I'm up to chapter 5 so far.
    I'm through chapter 2... Bendowa was great, its one of my favourites one because it's about Zazen; questioning and answering with a skeptical person about it. In that dialogue Dogen shows the virtues of Zazen in plain english.
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  10. 29 Jan 21, 03:48 #10
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    I’m only to chapter one, you are both well ahead of me.. I’m still plugging along.
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