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    Right view.

    When looking at the teaching of right view a person will experience that once own view will not be the same as others. but the teaching state that understanding the 4 noble truths and living by the 8 folded path will lead to right view.

    So why are there so many who do not have right view, even they all call them self Buddhists?
    Can it be that every person do hold different view because of different level of wisdom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cultivator View Post
    So why are there so many who do not have right view, even they all call them self Buddhists?
    Hi Cultivator,

    I'm rather puzzled by the above statement. What evidence do you have that "so many" people who are Buddhists don't have right view?


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    Because if the right view was easy to grasp there would be less arguing between buddhists in what is right or wrong view.
    There would be more buddhists who could see the same truth as Buddha did.
    Yes all buddhists are on a path toward enlightenment, but everyone are on different level of wisdom, so discussions and arguing will be less important because there will be thousands of different views on what right view actually is and that will lead to more confusion.

    Right view is within the 4 noble truths when one can see the cause of suffering and the way out of suffering.
    But ignorance and ego actually stop many to see this. Only when ego and ignorance has been let go of, then one see what is needed to be done to realise right view.

    Maybe it would be more important to study deeper in to the dhamma also for lay buddhists, because often it is seen that lay people do take buddhism more as a belief then a way of life. they make buddhism in to believing then actually action.

    This is one way to see it, but there will be buddhist not agreeing with this answer and they will see it in their own way, and that is ok.

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    Right view is described as seeing things as they really are, based on actions, speach and thoughts. But many buddhists do not seen things as it really is. because they do not see the karmic relation, and they do not see the cause that made a situation as they experience it.
    And that is not to say they ae bad buddhists ofcourse not, it is saying they are untrained in seeing things as they actually is. So conclution would be, human beings must realise that every action, words and thought will affect their life, seeing this and change their way of living, speaking and thinking lead to less suffering and then they see right view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cultivator View Post
    When looking at the teaching of right view a person will experience that once own view will not be the same as others.
    That is why it is a factor of enlightenment and why enlightenment is not easy.

    There are five or six translations of the four noble truths (SN 56.11) on the internet and each translation is different. Even the translators cannot agree what Right View is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Element View Post
    That is why it is a factor of enlightenment and why enlightenment is not easy.

    There are five or six translations of the four noble truths (SN 56.11) on the internet and each translation is different. Even the translators cannot agree what Right View is.

    This is the reason so many buddhists learn Pali or Sanskrit :) because it is closer to what buddha did speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cultivator View Post
    This is the reason so many buddhists learn Pali or Sanskrit :) because it is closer to what buddha did speak.
    The above still does not really make any difference because all of the translators that disagree with each other have all learned Pali. I have found what is important is understanding the meaning of words in their contextual use in the suttas. If you do not know what the words in the Noble Truths really mean, such as "dukkha", "jati", "marana", "upadanakhandha", "bhava", "nirodha", etc, then you won't have Right View. Most translators & most Pali dictionaries misinterpret these mentioned Pali words.

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    One monk pointed out to me that he had decided to replace the word "right" with "harmonious" because harmony is more beneficial to all involved, where as being right usually results in only more arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olderon View Post
    One monk pointed out to me that he had decided to replace the word "right" with "harmonious" because harmony is more beneficial to all involved, where as being right usually results in only more arguments.
    Hello Ron,
    I have heard the use of the word "harmonous" to replace "right" and it resonnated with me. I was listening to a Buddhist podcast recently and the speaker said that the word harmonious makes more sense because the western mind is accustomed to thinking about the word right in a dualistic way... this is right, that is wrong.

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