
Originally Posted by
Aloka
Gil Fronsdal has studied and practised with both the Theravada and Zen traditions.
Yeah well, I can read a book too, but such does not make experience. I have read Fronsdal's vanilla Buddhism and am under-impressed.

Originally Posted by
Aloka
This is an excerpt from the website of the Zen Centre, Georgia USA:
"The Chan and Zen views of Rebirth are not the same. These schools make no assumptions or hold beliefs as to what happens after one dies. Because of this, rebirth is seen as being born into each moment, dying and being reborn into the next moment. This isn't something to be taken on faith, but to understood through your own practice."
This must be given as a joke as we know that isn't true. These 'schools' definitely make assumptions about 'rebirth' (whatever that is to them) like all the rest. To be fair, I too take the useful approach of moment-to-moment rebirth but such would be intellectually dishonest to back-read into the core teachings.