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    The five realms in the here-&-now

    The language of the suttas can be quite complex.

    This thread can list sutta excerpts of the five realms unambiguously described in the here-&-now.


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    I have seen, bhikkhus, the hell named ‘Contact’s Sixfold Base.’ There whatever form one sees with the eye is undesirable, never desirable; unlovely, never lovely; disagreeable, never agreeable. Whatever sound one hears with the ear … Whatever odour one smells with the nose … Whatever taste one savours with the tongue … Whatever tactile object one feels with the body … Whatever mental phenomenon one cognizes with the mind is undesirable, never desirable; unlovely, never lovely; disagreeable, never agreeable.

    I have seen, bhikkhus, the heaven named ‘Contact’s Sixfold Base.’ There whatever form one sees with the eye is desirable, never undesirable; lovely, never unlovely; agreeable, never disagreeable. Whatever sound one hears with the ear … Whatever odour one smells with the nose … Whatever taste one savours with the tongue … Whatever tactile object one feels with the body … Whatever mental phenomenon one cognizes with the mind is desirable, never undesirable; lovely, never unlovely; agreeable, never disagreeable.

    https://suttacentral.net/en/sn35.135

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    Kathañca, bhikkhave, bhikkhu devappatto hoti?

    How has a monk attained/arrived at the state of a god?... A monk enters & dwells is the first...second...third...fourth jhana...

    Kathañca, bhikkhave, bhikkhu brahmappatto hoti

    How has a monk attained/arrived at the state of a brahma?... A monk pervades the entire world with loving-kindness... compassion... appreciative joy... equinimity...

    AN 4.190
    Living with Brahma are those families where, within the home, mother and father are respected by their children. Living with the early devas (gods) are those families where, within the home, mother and father are respected by their children. For what reason? Because mother and father are very helpful to their children, they take care of them and bring them up and teach them about the world.

    Mother and father are called
    "Brahma," "early teachers"
    And "worthy of veneration,"
    Being compassionate towards
    Their family of children.

    Iti 109

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    Bhikkhus, a god, a human or any other good state would not be evident from actions born of greed, hate and delusion. Yet, bhikkhus, from actions born of greed, hate and delusion a hellish being, an animal birth a ghostly birth or some other bad state would be evident.

    AN 6.39
    Bhikkhus, suppose a man would throw a yoke with a single hole into the great ocean, and there was a blind turtle which would come to the surface once every hundred years. What do you think, bhikkhus, would that blind turtle, coming to the surface once every hundred years, insert its neck into that yoke with a single hole?

    If it would ever do so, venerable sir, it would be only after a very long time.

    Sooner, I say, would that blind turtle, coming to the surface once every hundred years, insert its neck into that yoke with a single hole than the fool who has gone once to the nether world would regain the human state. For what reason? Because here, bhikkhus, there is no conduct guided by the Dhamma, no righteous conduct, no wholesome activity, no meritorious activity. Here there prevails mutual devouring, the devouring of the weak. For what reason? Because, bhikkhus, they have not seen the Four Noble Truths. What four? The noble truth of suffering … the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering.

    SN 56.47

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    Now on that occasion the wanderers of other persuasions had come together in a gathering and were sitting, discussing many kinds of bestial (animal) topics, making a great noise and racket. AN 10.93
    Bhikkhus, these two bright principles protect the world. What are the two? Shame and fear of wrongdoing. If, bhikkhus, these two bright principles did not protect the world, there would not be discerned respect for mother or maternal aunt or maternal uncle’s wife or a teacher’s wife or the wives of other honored persons, and the world would have fallen into promiscuity, as with goats, sheep, chickens, pigs, dogs, and jackals. But as these two bright principles protect the world, there is discerned respect for mother… and the wives of other honored persons. AN 2.9
    Beings (sattā) are few who, when they pass away from the animal realm (tiracchā*na*yoniyā) are 'reborn' (paccājāyanti) among humans (manussesu)… those beings are more numerous are reborn in hell…. For what reason? They have not realised the Four Noble Truths. SN 56.102 to 131

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    Householders, there are these four ways of living together. What four?

    A wretch lives together with a wretch; a wretch lives together with a female deva (god); a deva (god) lives together with a wretch; a deva (god) lives together with a female deva (god).

    When both are immoral,
    miserly and abusive,
    husband and wife
    live together as wretches.

    The husband is immoral,
    miserly and abusive,
    but his wife is virtuous,
    charitable, generous.
    She is a female deva living
    with a wretched husband.

    The husband is virtuous,
    charitable, generous,
    but his wife is immoral,
    miserly and abusive.
    She is a wretch living
    with a deva husband.

    Both husband and wife are endowed with faith,
    charitable and self-controlled,
    living their lives righteously,
    addressing each other with pleasant words.

    Then many benefits accrue to them
    and they dwell at ease.
    Their enemies are saddened
    when both are the same in virtue.

    Having practiced the Dhamma here,
    the same in virtuous behavior and observances,
    delighting in a deva world,
    they rejoice, enjoying sensual pleasures.

    AN 4.53

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    Mendicants, there is a hell called ‘The Mighty Fever’. There, whatever sight you see with your eye is unlikable, not likable; undesirable, not desirable; unpleasant, not pleasant. Whatever sound you hear … Whatever odor you smell … Whatever flavor you taste … Whatever touch you feel … Whatever thought you know with your mind is unlikable, not likable; undesirable, not desirable; unpleasant, not pleasant.”

    SN 56.43

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    AN 8.40 is interesting.

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