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BuckyG
01 Jun 11, 01:34
Hi,
Is the the Tripitaka the infallible word of the Buddha? Does infallibility matter?
May you find the causes of true happiness within.
BuckyG

plwk
01 Jun 11, 02:42
Infallibility huh?
Like this kind http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ANBfxiK-KSM/TJ5iNfjMNyI/AAAAAAAAASY/urJHXFE9qb0/s320/papal+crest.jpg or http://www.easy-kids-science-experiments.com/images/science-boy-resize.jpg

Element
01 Jun 11, 03:42
Does infallibility matter?
Absolutely. But in Buddhism, it is regarded as "reliability" or "trustworthiness" rather than "infallibility".

There is no Buddhist path without genuine refuge in the Buddha and the Dhamma.

The contrary is just theft or robbery, where we hear some teachings, we use them, without returning any gratitude or recognition.

The highway robbery has not overcome ego & individualism. Being so, the causes of true happiness have not been found within.

In the Garava Sutta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn06/sn06.002.than.html), the Buddha explained what is necessary for the maturation of the spiritual faculties.

;D


Yassa saddhā tathāgate
Acalā supatiṭṭhitā,
Sīlañca yassa kalyāṇaṃ
Ariya-kantaṃ pasaṃsitaṃ

One whose conviction in the Tathagata
Is unshakable, well-established,
Whose virtue is admirable,
Praised, cherished by the Noble Ones,

Saṅghe pasādo yassatthi
Ujubhūtañca dassanaṃ
Adaḷiddoti taṃ āhu
Amoghan-tassa jīvitaṃ

Who has faith in the Sangha, straightforwardness, vision:
"He is not poor," they say. His life has not been in vain.

Tasmā saddhañca sīlañca
Pasādaṃ dhamma-dassanaṃ
Anuyuñjetha medhāvī
Saraṃ buddhāna-sāsananti

So conviction & virtue, faith, & dhamma-vision
Should be cultivated by the wise,
Remembering the Buddhas' teachings.

(LEADER):


Handa mayaṃ dhammābhigītiṃ karoma se:

Now let us chant in celebration of the Dhamma:

(ALL):


[Svākkhātatā]diguṇa-yogavasena seyyo,

Superior, through having such virtues as being well-expounded,

Yo magga-pāka-pariyatti-vimokkha-bhedo,

Divided into Path & Fruit, study & emancipation,

Dhammo kuloka-patanā tadadhāri-dhārī.

The Dhamma protects those who hold to it from falling into miserable worlds.

Vandām'ahaṃ tama-haraṃ vara-dhammam-etaṃ.

I revere that foremost Dhamma, the destroyer of darkness.

Dhammo yo sabba-pāṇīnaṃ
Saraṇaṃ khemam-uttamaṃ.

The Dhamma that for all beings is the secure, the highest refuge,

Dutiyānussatiṭṭhānaṃ
Vandāmi taṃ sirenahaṃ,

The second theme for recollection: I revere it with my head.

Dhammassāhasmi dāso (dāsī) va
Dhammo me sāmikissaro.

I am the Dhamma's servant, the Dhamma is my sovereign master,

Dhammo dukkhassa ghātā ca
Vidhātā ca hitassa me.

The Dhamma is a destroyer of suffering & a provider of welfare for me.

Dhammassāhaṃ niyyādemi
Sarīrañjīvitañcidaṃ.

To the Dhamma I dedicate this body & this life of mine.

Vandanto'haṃ (Vandantī'haṃ) carissāmi
Dhammasseva sudhammataṃ.

I will fare with reverence for the Dhamma's genuine rightness.

N'atthi me saraṇaṃ aññaṃ,
Dhammo me saraṇaṃ varaṃ:

I have no other refuge, the Dhamma is my foremost refuge:

Etena sacca-vajjena,
Vaḍḍheyyaṃ satthu-sāsane.

By the speaking of this truth, may I grow in the Teacher's instruction.

Dhammaṃ me vandamānena (vandamānāya)
Yaṃ puññaṃ pasutaṃ idha,
Sabbe pi antarāyā me,
Māhesuṃ tassa tejasā.

Through the power of the merit here produced by my reverence for the Dhamma, may all my obstructions cease to be.

(BOW DOWN AND SAY):


Kāyena vācāya va cetasā vā,
Dhamme kukammaṃ pakataṃ mayā yaṃ,
Dhammo paṭiggaṇhatu accayantaṃ,
Kālantare saṃvarituṃ va dhamme.

Whatever bad kamma I have done to the Dhamma
by body, by speech, or by mind,
may the Dhamma accept my admission of it,
so that in the future I may show restraint toward the Dhamma.

Esho
01 Jun 11, 04:02
Absolutely. But in Buddhism, it is regarded as "reliability" or "trustworthiness" rather than "infallibility". [...].

Sure. Thanks Element!

:hands:

stuka
01 Jun 11, 06:15
Hi,
Is the the Tripitaka the infallible word of the Buddha?

Absolutely and unequivocably not.

The entire "pitaka" of "abihidhamma" is later papanca, for instance.

The words of the Buddha are the words of the Buddha. Many are to be found in portions of the Nikayas, but everything in the Nikayas did not drop from the Buddha's lips. Not by a long stretch.