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16 Oct 19, 17:22
For some reason the thread in which I offered information regarding sources of natural green house gas production was closed.

Hopefully this one will be left open so as to expand knowledge regarding causes of Global Warming / Climate change. :reading:

I received this information regarding volcanic CO2 production as compared to anthropogenic sources recently, which discusses the topic:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-10-14/humans-co2-volcanoes-climate-change-carbon-cycle/11586226?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=%5bspecialist_sfmc_16_10_19_science%5 d%3a125&user_id=63bd307cab9d7334eaac9fdf012a365c6caf67a351 fc7f4bb5e0347186e1f0dd&WT.tsrc=email&WT.mc_id=Email%7c%5bspecialist_sfmc_16_10_19_scien ce%5d%7c125story_3_headline

18 Oct 19, 04:48
Methane Clathrate is a hydrate of methane, which lies frozen at the base of the oceans of the world and in the oceanic bottom substrates. Methane is roughly 100 times more powerful as a green house gas and reacts in the atmosphere energized by ultraviolet energy to CO2.

Methane Clathrate Gun Hypothesis:

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18 Oct 19, 05:01
Solar Maximums and Minimums:

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=solar+maximums+and+minimums+as+they+affec t+climate+change+graph&fr=yhs-sz-001&hspart=sz&hsimp=yhs-001&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnotrickszone.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2FModern-Grand-Maximum-To-Cooling-Zharkova-2015-1.jpg#id=6&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnotrickszone.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2FModern-Grand-Maximum-To-Cooling-Zharkova-2015-1.jpg&action=click


As can be seen by the attached graph (above) and the graphs of solar activities in the links above, there are many solar activity variations over time. Maximums bring global warming, and minimums bring global cooling.

In addition there are solar flares, which coincide with sun spot and other activities, which produce what are called "solar winds", which have varying effects on all the planets within our solar system:


Much of the harmful influence of our sun's solar winds and flares are prevented by our Earth's Magnetic field, which deflects the winds and flares. This field is produced by our molten core, which acts as a magneto producing this field. Unfortunately, this field also has maximums and minimums, which allow the solar winds and flares to have a greater influence on our global climate.


https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrJ7JNwO6ldqPUA9JZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEy YmcxNmwwBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjY4MzNfMQRzZW MDc2M-?p=Variations+of+the+earth%27s+magnetic+field.&fr=yhs-invalid


18 Oct 19, 05:25
Inverse relationship between geomagnetically generated field and global warming?


I found the above graph interesting in that I have never seen this data included in any of the models producing historical or projected lines of predictions:reading:.

Nor have I seen the relationship ever discussed by "climate change experts".

Will forward to NASA for their perusal and consideration.

18 Oct 19, 08:12
Nor have I seen the relationship ever discussed by "climate change experts"

Hi Ron,

Please keep in mind that the discussion forum you're writing this in is labelled Buddhism and the Environment.

One-person lists of technical information, graphs, and climate change denials are not quite what I had

in mind!

Best wishes,

Aloka :hands:

18 Oct 19, 09:02
Hi Ron,

Please keep in mind that the forum you're writing this in is labelled Buddhism and the Environment.

One-person lists of technical information, graphs, and climate change denials are not quite what I had

in mind!

Best wishes,

Aloka :hands:

Hi, Aloka. There are no denials. Just information about the facts regarding climate change which do not ordinarily get posted in Buddhist, or any other such web sites. I have no control over the number of people who choose to enter the thread. Buddhism, especially Secular Buddhism, deals with reality. Nothing is listed on this thread, which is not real, at least so far.

18 Oct 19, 09:46
OK. :peace:


18 Oct 19, 15:10
Well, I suspect that what Aloka was saying is that you are posting a lot of stuff but not addressing how it relates to Buddhism in any of these posts.

24 Oct 19, 21:28
Hi, lisa hull.

The teachings of The Buddha did not include global warming, or climate change. However, HHDL stated in one of his discussions that if science discovers "reality" that is different than what is being taught as "the dhamma" ,then Buddhism must go with science.

The dhamma is defined as "things as they actually are."

15 Jan 20, 09:03
Here is the latest report I have received from NASA regarding Ocean heat transport:


excerpt: The Antarctic Circumpolar Current flows in a loop around Antarctica, connecting the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans. It is one of the most significant ocean currents in our climate system because it facilitates the exchange of heat and other properties among the oceans it links.

But how the current transfers heat, particularly vertically from the top layer of the ocean to the bottom layers and vice versa, is still not fully understood. This current is very turbulent, producing eddies — swirling vortices of water similar to storms in the atmosphere — between 30 to 125 miles (50 to 200 kilometers) in diameter. It also spans some 13,000 miles (21,000 kilometers) through an especially remote and inhospitable part of the world, making it one of the most difficult currents for scientists — as least those of the human variety — to observe and measure.

Luckily for Lia Siegelman, a visiting scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, the rough seas posed no challenge for her scientific sidekick: a tagged southern elephant seal.

Equipped with a specialized sensor reminiscent of a small hat, the seal swam more than 3,000 miles (4,800 kilometers) on a three-month voyage, much of it through the turbulent, eddy-rich waters of the Antarctic Circumpolar Current. The seal made around 80 dives at depths ranging from 550 to 1,090 yards (500 to 1,000 meters) per day during this time. All the while, it collected a continuous stream of data that has provided new insight into how heat moves vertically between ocean layers in this volatile region — insight that brings us one step closer to understanding how much heat from the Sun the ocean there is able to absorb.

17 Jan 20, 16:23
Here is the latest report I have received from NASA regarding Ocean heat transport

The above information in #10 was published by the UK press more than a month ago, at the beginning of December 2019. I remember reading it and feeling concerned for the seal.